Comments on: History: The Q Ship, and How They Could Be Used To Battle Pirates http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:05:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Maritime Security: India’s Government Suggests Shipowners Use ‘Private Armed Guards’ For GOA | Feral Jundi http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-8019 Maritime Security: India’s Government Suggests Shipowners Use ‘Private Armed Guards’ For GOA | Feral Jundi Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:13:05 +0000 http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-8019 [...] Private armed guards and decoy vessels? Is someone in India reading FJ and getting some ideas? (Q ships come to mind) Especially if pirates keep mistakingly firing on massive warships–what idiots. [...] […] Private armed guards and decoy vessels? Is someone in India reading FJ and getting some ideas? (Q ships come to mind) Especially if pirates keep mistakingly firing on massive warships–what idiots. […]

]]> By: headjundi http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-4694 headjundi Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:11:00 +0000 http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-4694 Capt Joe, Any kind of offensive action would be illegal at this time. That is why it is important to have congressional authority to do such a thing, hence the letter of marque. Now if you wanted to defend a ship, then it would take offering your services and insuring that you have all the things they are looking for, for maritime security. Often times, shipping companies go with security companies that are already established. For you, if you already have boats, then you could lease them out to maritime security companies, and get involved there. Or lease them out to training companies, or provide training services yourself. Your asset is your boats. But I really haven't heard of too many shipping security contracts where they want a boat in tow as well. Usually it is just security teams on boats. But I wont discount it. Blackwater had the MacArthur, and some British company bought some boats, but that this about all I have heard. Another idea is you lease your boats to the Somali navy, or whatever coastal patrol there is there. But as far as going on the hunt, we are just not there yet, and you would be a criminal if you went down that route. I don't like it, and that is why I keep harping on the letter of marque thing. Capt Joe,

Any kind of offensive action would be illegal at this time. That is why it is important to have congressional authority to do such a thing, hence the letter of marque.
Now if you wanted to defend a ship, then it would take offering your services and insuring that you have all the things they are looking for, for maritime security. Often times, shipping companies go with security companies that are already established.
For you, if you already have boats, then you could lease them out to maritime security companies, and get involved there. Or lease them out to training companies, or provide training services yourself. Your asset is your boats.
But I really haven’t heard of too many shipping security contracts where they want a boat in tow as well. Usually it is just security teams on boats. But I wont discount it. Blackwater had the MacArthur, and some British company bought some boats, but that this about all I have heard.
Another idea is you lease your boats to the Somali navy, or whatever coastal patrol there is there. But as far as going on the hunt, we are just not there yet, and you would be a criminal if you went down that route. I don’t like it, and that is why I keep harping on the letter of marque thing.

]]> By: Capt Joe http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-4672 Capt Joe Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:47:53 +0000 http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-4672 i love the idea of a Q SHIP to lure pirates in,i own a Q SHIP uss captor / uss eagle ms wave located in Boston,Mass,if i can find funding im willing to crew up and take down pirates,lets build a non profit organization and get the cameras on board and start filming,(maybe we could be on the Discovery channel some day filming pirate attacks!!!)if we can get this going i dont see why shipping companies/civilians wouldnt donate to this type of service. i love the idea of a Q SHIP to lure pirates in,i own a Q SHIP uss captor / uss eagle ms wave located in Boston,Mass,if i can find funding im willing to crew up and take down pirates,lets build a non profit organization and get the cameras on board and start filming,(maybe we could be on the Discovery channel some day filming pirate attacks!!!)if we can get this going i dont see why shipping companies/civilians wouldnt donate to this type of service.

]]> By: headjundi http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1865 headjundi Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:02:15 +0000 http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1865 Carl- Thats great to hear, and I hope the script gets made into a movie one day. You did an excellent job with Jaws, and I am sure this script is equally marvelous. The inspiration for my thoughts on privateers came from the book Patriot Pirates. It is my opinion that privateers get a bad rap, and certainly were an essential tool for winning our wars of independence in the early years of the US. Here is a link to a bunch of stuff I have touched on that relates to privateers. http://feraljundi.com/index.php?s=privateers http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Pirates-Privateer-American-Revolution/dp/0375422846 Carl-
Thats great to hear, and I hope the script gets made into a movie one day. You did an excellent job with Jaws, and I am sure this script is equally marvelous.
The inspiration for my thoughts on privateers came from the book Patriot Pirates. It is my opinion that privateers get a bad rap, and certainly were an essential tool for winning our wars of independence in the early years of the US. Here is a link to a bunch of stuff I have touched on that relates to privateers.

http://feraljundi.com/index.php?s=privateers

http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Pirates-Privateer-American-Revolution/dp/0375422846

]]> By: Carl Gottlieb http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1859 Carl Gottlieb Mon, 13 Apr 2009 05:22:09 +0000 http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1859 I'm a screenwriter in Hollywood, with more than a passing acquaintance with ocean predators, and last year, I wrote and circulated a new, original screenplay entitled "PRIVATEERS." My story contains every element discussed here (Letters of Marque, Ron Paul, the Treaty of Paris, and Q-Boats), and it was sent to producers and studios the week before the first Somalian pirate story broke in the world news (the freighter with Russian tanks and armaments aboard was hijacked and ransomed). Surprisingly, the script was not immediately bought, although I expect renewed interest and hope for a sale soon. Just adding this to the record, because the Internet has a way of circulating good ideas... Carl Gottlieb Los Angeles, CA. I’m a screenwriter in Hollywood, with more than a passing acquaintance with ocean predators, and last year, I wrote and circulated a new, original screenplay entitled “PRIVATEERS.”

My story contains every element discussed here (Letters of Marque, Ron Paul, the Treaty of Paris, and Q-Boats), and it was sent to producers and studios the week before the first Somalian pirate story broke in the world news (the freighter with Russian tanks and armaments aboard was hijacked and ransomed).

Surprisingly, the script was not immediately bought, although I expect renewed interest and hope for a sale soon. Just adding this to the record, because the Internet has a way of circulating good ideas…

Carl Gottlieb
Los Angeles, CA.

]]> By: UNRR http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1847 UNRR Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:40:07 +0000 http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1847 This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 4/11/2009, at <a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Unreligious Right</a> This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 4/11/2009, at The Unreligious Right

]]> By: Somali Pirates Hijack U.S. Vessel ---20 U.S. National on board - Page 5 - INGunOwners http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1841 Somali Pirates Hijack U.S. Vessel ---20 U.S. National on board - Page 5 - INGunOwners Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:43:28 +0000 http://feraljundi.com/2009/04/08/history-the-q-ship-and-how-they-could-be-used-to-battle-pirates/#comment-1841 [...] make them have second thoughts on the ship they are going after. Exactly what I was thinking... History: The Q Ship, and How They Could Be Used To Battle Pirates | Feral Jundi Why the hell U.S. merchant ships aren't armed, especially in that area, is beyond me. Every crew [...] […] make them have second thoughts on the ship they are going after. Exactly what I was thinking… History: The Q Ship, and How They Could Be Used To Battle Pirates | Feral Jundi Why the hell U.S. merchant ships aren’t armed, especially in that area, is beyond me. Every crew […]

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