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Wednesday, November 23, 2011

Industry Talk: Up To 763 Contractors And 157 US Military Trainers To Train Iraqi Forces Post-2011

Filed under: Industry Talk,Iraq — Tags: , , , , — Matt @ 2:15 PM

Well I guess there goes that whole idea that ‘all troops will be out of Iraq’? lol Sure, they will be out by Christmas, but according to this article, military trainers will be in Iraq ‘post-2011’. So how is that a departure of the troops?

The big one here is that we have some solid numbers on how many contractors will be involved with training.  Iraq has made some weapons purchases that require lots of training, and contractors/military advisers are a necessity for training the Iraqis on how to use that stuff.

Also, with the economy as it is, weapons sales to other countries is a matter of importance to the US and our defense companies. Nothing new going on there, and we have quite the history of selling military hardware to allies throughout the region. The Vinnell Arabia contract in Saudi Arabia is a prime example, and those guys have been training Saudis to use American gear for a long time. Iraq will be no different and I have written about this in the past. Although with these contracts, Iraq will still be a dangerous place to operate in. –Matt

 

Up to 763 contractors to train Iraqi forces: US
By W.G. Dunlop
November 23, 2011
A maximum of 763 civilian contractors and 157 US military personnel will train Iraqi security forces post-2011, if the Iraqi government gives its approval, a US officer said on Wednesday.
US President Barack Obama announced on October 21 that US troops would depart Iraq by year’s end, after negotiations with Baghdad on a larger-scale post-2011 US military training mission broke down.
The military personnel and contractors are part of the Office of Security Cooperation – Iraq (OSC-I), which falls under US embassy authority, Lieutenant Colonel Tom Hanson, director of strategic communications for OSC-I, told AFP.
“The 157 (military personnel) are here, and the up to 763 number is based on the number of active foreign military sales cases at any given time,” he said.
As not all are active at once, the 763 contractors will probably not be in Iraq at the same time, he added.
The contractors are “involved in some aspect of bringing the equipment to the Iraqis and helping them learn how to operate it, and bringing (them) to a minimum level of proficiency on it, whether it’s a tank or an airplane or an air traffic control system or a radar,” Hanson said.

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Sunday, September 12, 2010

Industry Talk: Contractors And Iraq Defense–The Next Vinnell Arabia?

Iraq has ordered or requested more than $13 billion worth of U.S. arms, as well as a shipment of 18 F-16s, which aren’t expected to arrive at least until 2013 even if the order receives swift congressional approval.

“It’s inevitable,” he said. “We have equipment such as tanks, aircraft, naval equipment, and it’s all coming from the United States. They won’t be fully ready until 2016, so how are we going to train on them? By mail? We will need the help of specialists and experts and trainers and those people are going to need life support and force protection.”

Otherwise, he added, “all the expenses I paid for … will be in vain.” 

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The issue of a continuing American presence is politically sensitive in Baghdad and Washington. No Iraqi politician seeking to head the next government could risk calling for the U.S. military, which led the 2003 invasion of their country, to stay longer. The faction loyal to radical Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada Sadr, whose support could prove crucial to any future government, opposed the agreement that allowed U.S. troops to stay as long as 2011, and has said it will not back any government that permits them to stay any longer. 

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     I stumbled upon this article the other day while doing my research and this jumped out at me.  As you can see with the two quotes up top, as well as what the article as a whole was discussing, we are in a very peculiar situation in Iraq.  We have given them all of this American hardware like the F-16 or the M-1 Abrams, and yet politically we are unable to stick around to make sure the Iraqis can take care of the stuff.  Enter the contractor.

     With that said, one could say that contractors will not only be important to the DoS mission or the oil companies, but also to the defense companies doing business with the Iraqi MoD.  The companies that make this hardware will need a place to stay that is safe, they will need protection they can depend upon, and those protectors will have to be folks that know the ins and outs of Iraq. Security contractors will be very important in these early transition years.

    Not only that, but armies like the Iraqi Army, whom are trained to western standards will undoubtedly need more western ways of warfare ‘tune ups’.  It is not enough to give them a tank, an APC, or jet and call it a day.  They need to know maintenance, strategy, limits and capabilities, etc.–and all of that requires a western trainer who can hold their hand and give them guidance. Think Vinnell Arabia, but in Iraq.(a defense company that has been training Saudi Arabia’s military for years) Hell, it wouldn’t surprise me if Vinnell Arabia was called upon to be that company to provide these services in Iraq.

    The next point is time frame.  As American and European equipment continues to saturate the Iraq defense stockpile, we have essentially created a self perpetuating business relationship between Iraq and the west. We basically create their dependence on the stuff.  This general below mentioned several dates like 2016 or 2020, but realistically Iraq will need this kind of support for as long as they have a military dependent on this equipment.  And if they ever were able to optimize their oil production and make profit off of it, I believe they will take somewhat of the same path as Saudi Arabia when it comes to defense. (lots of current equipment and quality trainers to go with) Of course this scenario would take a bit to get to that point, but you get the idea.  The relationship between private industry and Iraq defense will be a constant over the years, just as long as Iraq’s defense depends upon western military hardware and know how, and they have neighbors that they consider to be ‘external threats’.

    The final point is that we are also building Afghanistan’s defense and they too will need help with it well after the war is over. Not to mention that Afghanistan and the US is becoming more politically sensitive when it comes to troop deployments. Contractors who know Afghanistan will be important as well.  Of course we are not at this phase yet, but you get the idea and it is definitely something to think about. Interesting stuff. –Matt

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Iraqi official foresees a U.S. military presence until 2016

Baghdad is buying American military gear and weapons, which have yet to arrive. U.S. forces must stay to train Iraqis on how to use them, Defense Minister Abdul Qader Obeidi says.

September 08, 2010

By Liz Sly

Some form of U.S. military presence will be needed in Iraq at least until 2016 to provide training, support and maintenance for the vast quantity of military equipment and weaponry that Iraq is buying from America, Iraqi Defense Minister Abdul Qader Obeidi said.

In addition, Iraq will continue to need help with intelligence gathering after 2011, and the fledgling Iraqi air force will require U.S. assistance at least until 2020, the date by which Iraq aims to achieve the capability to defend its airspace, Obeidi said.

The comments were made in an interview a week after President Obama declared the end of U.S. combat operations and reaffirmed America’s commitment to pull out all its troops by the end of 2011, under the terms of a security agreement reached by the Bush administration and the Iraqi government in 2008.

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Sunday, March 7, 2010

Jobs: Security Officer, Saudi Arabia

   I just stumbled upon this one at their career page, and I thought this would be a good one for guys that are looking for something a little more chilled out than the war zone work. Plus it is still overseas work, and will count for your Foreign Earned Income taxes.  That is if you are trying to stay overseas for the 330 days or not.

   If you wanted to network with the rest of Vinnell Arabia’s folks for other positions, this might be a good way to do that to. The facility is probably state of the art as well, considering how long this contract has been around, and the amount of money Saudi Arabia has spent on this.

   I am not the POC or recruiter for this, and just follow the links provided in order to apply.  I am not an employee either, so there is no chance for me to take part in the referral program. This is me just passing the info around. If anyone has information about this gig, feel free to talk in the comments section.  Good luck. –Matt

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Title:  Security Officer 

Category:  MILITARY TRAINING

Location:  RIYADH / SAUDI ARABIA

Sector:  TECHNICAL SERVICES

Posting ID:  348/1034-003

Description:Ensures that all passive and active measures are functioning properly and are providing the appropriate level of protection to the ROC compound. Ensures that all personnel security assets are performing up to standard and that their efforts are completely integrated. Maintains continuous communication with the ROC Security Operation Center (SOC) and all operational security elements at the ROC compound. Provides and receives security reports. Ensures vendors, vehicles and visitors are screened properly to allow access to the compound if authorized.

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Monday, January 25, 2010

Industry Talk: Northrop Grumman Wins Saudi Arabian National Guard Contract Worth $550 Million

   I tell you, every time I hear about this contract, I am just blown away by it’s enormity–yet it gets absolutely zero coverage.  The Saudis have some serious money, and they have been purchasing some very high quality equipment and training over the years. Although it takes competent soldiers, along with competent leaders to actually command these armies, and that is something Vinnell cannot provide.

  We will see how well they do in future conflict, and especially along the borders with Yemen. I would love to see them decimate some of that Al Qaeda scum in those regions Insha’Allah.

   Also, check out this article a friend sent me that came from Strategy Page.  It sounds like the Saudis have had some issues with fighting the Houthis. (120 dead soldiers in 3 months)  They are also doing the typical rich arab thing, and hiring Yemeni tribes to fight for them to help out. That isn’t really working out either. Could the Saudis one day hire a competent PMC to do their fighting for them?  Who knows, but I am sure it has crossed their minds. –Matt

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Northrop Grumman Wins Saudi Arabian National Guard Contract With a Potential Value of $550 Million

Jan. 20, 2010

HERNDON, Va.,  (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — The U.S. Army has awarded Northrop Grumman Corporation a contract to continue the modernization and training of the Saudi Arabia National Guard (SANG). The contract has a potential value of $550 million.

The five-year, cost-plus-award-fee hybrid contract also contains fixed-fee and firm-fixed-price elements.

Under the terms of the contract, Northrop Grumman Technical Services subsidiary Vinnell Arabia LLC will provide U.S. Army-based doctrine and military training as well as logistics and support services that will further contribute to SANG fulfilling its national defense mission with self-sustained command, control and operational capabilities.  Work will be performed throughout the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

“Our U.S. Army customer not only has selected a trusted partner who will continue to provide them with seamless continuity for the SANG program, but also a partner who values a culture of performance,” said Robert S. Coffey, program general manager for Vinnell Arabia LLC. “We look forward to continuing to raise our collective bar of excellence with the SANG program, which is an essential force in the long-term defense of the Kingdom.”

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