CSA Kuwait has always been one of those companies that provided the stepping stone to bigger and better contracts for guys. In essence, it has been one of those gigs to cut your teeth on, in order to prepare for the war zone stuff. I consider the Kosovo contract with ITT(or whoever owns that contract now) and the Qatar contract with DynCorp to be the same thing. These are all static security posts, tasked with securing a large US base in these countries, and they can be used as experience for overseas security contracting in the war zones on a resume.
Now on to this latest report on CSA and what the company’s response is. It isn’t that pretty, if you know what I mean. I do not see customer satisfaction there. I also hear on the circuit that contractors are not to happy with the way the company has treated them.
If you read below, the company mission statement has Toyota and lean systems written all over it. It has all the stuff you want in a company. The thing I want to emphasize though is that anyone can write a mission statement that looks impressive, but to me, actions speak louder than words. Is the customer truly satisfied or happy and are your contractors and leaders truly satisfied or happy? How about the local populations or the public as a whole? What is their impression of your company? That is all that matters, and results are what the company should be striving for.
I would like to reiterate though that I really dig the mission statements and the language. It is great, but does the CEO of the company really believe this stuff with his heart and soul? Does the leadership in this company have this stuff ingrained into their soul? And does all of this impress and motivate their contractors/employees, and the customer?
And for all I know, all of these mission statements and ISO 9001:2000 and Six Sigma stuff happened as a result of all of these issues listed below? If so, that is great, and I really hope the company can achieve greatness in their little corner of the security contracting world. The proof is in the pudding, and until I start hearing glowing reviews of the company’s performance, then I will continue to remain skeptical.
My suggestion to the company is to seek out feedback from the customer(s) and to seek out feedback from your workforce. Actually listen to what they have to say, and get some shared reality. You should also be doing performance evaluations, and constantly evaluating the health and vitality of your company. How else are you to know how you are doing out there on these contracts? Be proactive about your performance, not reactive.
Furthermore, performance evaluations, if done correctly, can certainly add to your company’s Kaizen. The sleeping guard mentioned below could have shown a history of sleeping on post or poor performance elsewhere, and it should have been noted in performance evaluations and corrected early on. If the guy sucks, then there should be documentation that he sucks, and the leadership should have a means to express to that contractor that it is unacceptable.
The guard should know exactly what the company policies are, they should know what the chain of command is, and they should know the disciplinary process. My suggestion for disciplinary stuff, is to have a three tiered system. The first tier is the warning. If the guard does the same thing a second time, then make a note on their performance evaluation and take one day’s pay. If the guard does it a third time, then fire him. Either way you do it, disciplinary programs should be clear, graduated, and the punishments should be fair. Most of all, disciplinary actions should be consistent and there should be no favoritism. If there is, it will kill your program. Too many companies implement a disciplinary system that is either you do well, or we fire you for whatever reason.
The question to ask with that, is how much money is a company losing by not doing all they can to hang on to guys? To actually treat them well and listen to what they have to say, as opposed to not caring about them, and reacting with a knee jerk action like firing the guard. An evaluations system, coupled with a fair and effective disciplinary program, is the better way to go. Taking a guys pay for the day, is money in the company’s pocket and a day of free work. But when you fire a guy, you have to spend the money to recruit, train, equip, and deploy someone new. Do the math on that, and turnover is not cost effective. The three tier disciplinary system I am talking about makes sense and if coupled with a sound company mission statement and evaluations program, you can certainly do great thing to shape and manage your workforce.
Likewise, a contractor or leader should be able to communicate up the chain of command what is going right and what is going wrong with the company, and that upper management should be responsive to that. This contractor cares enough about your company, to let you know some deficiencies, the least you could do is listen to what they have to say and thank him or her for coming forward. If you have a culture that does not allow for this, then how is your company to grow/evolve and continuously improve? A performance evaluation system, that is properly conducted and gives both sides (contractor and manager) a voice, is vital. Most of all, a company that acts upon this information and really implements changes based on this information is even more important. Other than that, it is all hot air and ISO-Bologny. –Matt
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INSIDE WASHINGTON: Oversight lacking on war costs
By RICHARD LARDNER
10/07/2009
WASHINGTON — During a routine check of a watch tower at a U.S. military base in Kuwait, an Army sergeant found the guard leaning back in a chair, his sunglasses on, apparently sound asleep. When the soldier woke the guard, an employee of a defense contractor named Combat Support Associates, he denied he’d dozed off while on duty.
“It’s so weird that I can close my eyes for one second and then you appear out of nowhere,” the guard said, according to the sergeant’s March 2008 inspection report.
The episode illustrates the problems between the U.S. armed forces and the industrial army supporting military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. Demand for contractor services is heavy, while oversight of their work isn’t. That means problems often aren’t discovered until long after the payments have been made.
A major trouble spot is the business systems and procedures that companies use to bill the government. The numbers are eye-popping. Defense auditors have found at least $6 billion in questionable charges generated by sloppy accounting or, worse, contractors trying to bilk the military.
Yet, the Pentagon has done a poor job of recovering the money and forcing companies to improve, according to the independent Commission on Wartime Contracting. The panel cites dysfunction among auditors and contract managers, a shortage of personnel and a failure to be more confrontational with contractors who don’t measure up.
Based in Orange, Calif., Combat Support Associates is a largely unknown enterprise that, since 1999, has held an Army contract worth $2.7 billion to support U.S. troops at bases in Kuwait as they move in and out of Iraq. The company’s responsibilities include vehicle maintenance, warehousing, computer repairs and post security.
Between 2003 and 2007, when the U.S. invaded Iraq and then became ensnared in a lengthy counterinsurgency, there was little government scrutiny of the company’s business systems, according to interviews and government records obtained by The Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act.
In late 2007, the military belatedly began paying attention. Numerous contract violations were found, several of them serious, leading to a flood of what contracting officials call corrective action requests. Last fall, the Army Criminal Investigation Command opened an inquiry to determine if Combat Support Associates overbilled the government. The case is ongoing.
The records obtained through FOIA show money flowing to Combat Support Associates despite an alarming catalog of problems later uncovered by Army contracting officials.
In one case, the company signed a $48 million deal with a Kuwaiti company to provide food, lodging and transportation for employees, but it did no detailed study to justify such a large expense. A memorandum supporting the buy included a price analysis three sentences long, which an Army review team called a “major systemic weakness.”
The documents detail other deficiencies. The company failed to properly secure classified communications gear and weapons stored in warehouses. And it was written up for having no system in place to check the identification of contract employees — who are often not American citizens — at U.S. maintenance facilities in Kuwait.
In the past two years alone, Combat Support Associates received dozens of warnings from the government to improve performance, the records show. Several of those have been Level Three warnings, which are issued only in cases of serious noncompliance with the terms of a contract.
None of this appears to have dented the company’s bottom line, however. Over the past decade, its performance has been rated as excellent, very good or good, according to the Army Sustainment Command in Rock Island, Ill. With those marks, Combat Support Associates has earned close to $90 million.
Part of the problem is a type of government contract that critics say diminishes the incentive for companies to keep down costs. The government agrees to reimburse the contractor for expenses, such as costs for equipment, leasing space and hiring subcontractors, plus a prearranged amount for profit.
For the military, however, these so-called cost-plus contracts are useful in wartime, when it can’t precisely define all the work that needs to be done.
Gary Lewi, a spokesman for Combat Support Associates, said all of the corrective action warnings have been or are in the process of being resolved to the “satisfaction of the client.”
As for the sleeping guard? He resigned, said Lewi, who provided no further details.
How the company’s contract will fare is up in the air. It expires in March, and Army officials say they’re contemplating changes in how they handle the base support work.
Jeffrey Parsons, executive director of the Army Contracting Command at Fort Belvoir, Va., said he expects the arrangement to be broken up into smaller, more manageable pieces that will generate competition and improve performance.
Story here.
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Mission & History of CSA Kuwait
In July 1999, the U.S. Army selected CSA as the contractor offering the best value to the government in providing services under the Combat Services Support Contract – Kuwait (CSSC-K). The current contract is a 10-year effort with a base year and nine option years that run through September 2009. On 8 May 2009 CSA signed a contract modification that extends the current contract by six months for a Period of Performance of 1 October 2009 to 31 March 2010.
Combat Support Associates and CSA, Ltd. brought together an experienced and cost-effective international workforce consisting of more than 24 nationalities, all working toward one goal: unlimited excellence. Employees at all levels have dedicated themselves to a wide range of assignments, including:
• maintaining tactical equipment, such as tanks
• supporting information systems
• conducting force-on-force and live-fire exercise and training programs
• providing security, environmental services and uniforms
• organizing recreational programs and special events for soldiers
The terrorist attacks in the United States on Sept. 11, 2001 significantly expanded the number of ground forces stationed in Kuwait. The dynamics of responding to the immediate increase in equipment, logistics and soldier needs were tests that Combat Support Associates and CSA, Ltd. passed with flying colors. That January and continuing through 2002, equipment from Europe and Qatar was shipped to Kuwait, and Combat Support Associates and CSA, Ltd. employees made all deadlines to prepare it for issue. From November 2002 to February 2003, Combat Support Associates and CSA, Ltd. responded flawlessly to soldier service and activity needs; the 3rd Infantry Division proceeded to the Kuwait/Iraqi border with equipment issued by the company. On March 19, 2003, U.S. ground military operations against Iraq began. The company was a tried and tested workforce that had responded to every need of its U.S. Army Central Command –Kuwait (ARCENT-KU) customer, and this commitment continued in war. CSSC-K workers braved more than 20 sounded alerts as missiles were inbound for Kuwait and U.S. Patriot missiles were fired in response. Whether doing office work, sitting behind a computer, working on a tank in the shops with temperatures in excess of 90 degrees, or working outside in dust storms, Combat Support Associates and CSA, Ltd. employees were characterized by their dedication and determination.
The company is in its ninth year of supporting the largest troop movement since WWII. Preceded by a strong eight-year track record, the company is moving ahead with ever-increasing responsibilities, distinguished by its reputation for delivering service that is “unlimited in quality.”
Our Strengths:
• Committed to our military customers
• Flexible and responsive
• Tested and proven during war with Iraq
• Certified ISO 9001:2000
7 Tenets of Excellence
The 7 Tenets are Combat Support Associate’s and CSA, Ltd.’s core beliefs, the business and moral codes to turn to whenever there’s a question of conduct or “the big picture.” This is who we are, what we’re here for, and our umbrella goals, in short order.
Code of Conduct
Always maintain the highest moral and ethical standards, on or off the job. There is no room for compromise.
Safety Always
Nothing we do warrants the risk of loss of life, limb or eyesight.
ASG-KU Customer Service
Be responsive, innovative, efficient and cost-effective without compromising the quality of service. Always treat the customer with the highest degree of respect.
Teamwork
Common goals are the building blocks of a strong company. Team with a reputation for excellence. Maintain a positive work environment and look out for one another.
Employee Accountability
Understand your individual duties and responsibilities as well as the important contribution you make to the Combat Support Associates and CSA, Ltd. Team. Execute your job to an excellent professional standard, with or without supervision.
Always Improving
Within the framework of the Statement of Work, look for ways to provide ever-better service to our customer.
Materiel/Property Accountability
Fully account for all property including supplies, equipment and facilities.
Website for CSA here.
I worked for CSA for 4 months. I chose to leave the company because I could no longer bring myself to work for a company who in my opinion (Retired USAF Security Forces, specializing in Anti-terrorism, and Force Protection) should be rated “Unsatisfactory”. The fact that the U.S. Army is blind to the incompetence of CSA in performing their duties is shocking. I now work in IRAQ and Afghanistan an environment where CSA would get soldiers killed daily.
Comment by Darren — Friday, October 9, 2009 @ 5:28 AM
Are you trying to say that USAF Security Forces are not specialized in force protection over there last 20 years + of work. I work for CSA this job is easy.
Comment by John — Thursday, October 22, 2009 @ 10:52 PM
Yes, the work is easy, but, in my opinion, FPOs put up with too much BS (politics, some inadequate peers, a lot of inadequate leadership, etc.) for only the wage of $14 an hour. It’s a lot easier to earn $70k in the U.S. than CSA claims.
I worked for CSA security in 2005 & 2006. I found it demoralizing to follow the oders of our “fearless leader” (Perdue) when he appeared to not meet the weight standards and overexaggerated his military experience.
That being said, my time in Kuwait served its purpose for me and my family. Although CSA is a “shady” company, I’m glad I experienced its “shadyness.” I now have one more thing to talk (and write) about.
Comment by Warlord80 — Monday, November 2, 2009 @ 12:25 PM
Warlord80,
Absolutely, and thanks for you input. The key with experiences like this, is to learn the ‘better way’ after seeing such poor leadership and operations, and apply those lessons later on in future contracts. -matt
Comment by headjundi — Monday, November 2, 2009 @ 2:03 PM
Having read the posted comments concerning CSA and its deficinecies I would appreciate some additional feedback on the company as my paperwork is currently being processed.
I'm 56 and have been struggling to find work for the past year. My background is diverse, having owned and operated a couple of businesses. I'm willing to bear out a few years in Kuwait in order to get back on my feet.
What advice have you.
Thanks
Comment by Rick — Wednesday, November 18, 2009 @ 12:42 PM
I have started the process with CSA.
Having had the good fortune of serving with the US Army in several high-speed areas 20 years ago. The idea of holding down a post for $60K a year, a roof to sleep under, and regular meals sounds like a cakewalk!
The input I hear is that the money is not enough at the end of the year, I have a bad boss, and I can run the company better.
For me, I never expect anything but three hots and a cot, that I will have to do it the way someone else wants, and that my pay check had better be in the bank on pay-day. I am led to think that I can expect this with CSA. If they get the new contract, then they have delivered the goods for 10 years from the start of the shit!
I am thinking that the people they hire have a good deal to do with how things are thought of. In case anyone is really ready for a good time. I know the French are always looking for a few good guys to mix it up on a 5 year contract!
Comment by Ty — Saturday, December 19, 2009 @ 8:10 AM
I am also going through the hiring process and am a little concerned with all that I am hearing negative. I want this job to get some experience and move on to Iraq or Afghan for more pay etc..I dont want to be mixed up with a bunch of boobs and walk away not being able to use them on a resume because everyone knows they are incompetent. I want to be in this for the long run and where I start, I feel, can make or break my future in contracting. Being 46 and a retired military guy, I have the mind and body to do this, but have no room for failure. Any honest insight from anyone in or out of CSA would be appreciated. I'm not doing this to just F'around. Thanks in advance.
Comment by Pilatus — Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 12:08 PM
Hey Pilatus,
You know, if you are prior military and you want to work in Iraq, why not just apply for a job with SOC? They have been looking for guys to spin up their new contract at VBC.
As for getting your foot in the door with CSA, that's fine and we have all been there. But if I were you, I would continue to apply elsewhere, while you are applying for CSA. And if you are able to get on with CSA, continue applying for other contracts. That way, if you are satisfied with your job at CSA, you can stay and be fine with what they have to offer. But if you are not at all satisfied with the CSA program, you could just leave.
Another thing to keep in mind is that there are rumors floating around that they could lose the contract. In that case, you might be doing a T-shirt change while on this gig, which is no big deal. Although CSA has done a pretty good job of hanging on to their contract for a long time now, the possibility still exists that they could lose it to a bigger company.
But yeah man, keep applying with other gigs. You should be checking all the forums daily, sign up on Secure Aspects job board, and network with as many folks as you can. Sign up with the Blackice Security Yahoo group too.
I also recommend that you insure your resume is solid, and if there are any holes in your training background, to get relevant to today's security market. That means get some Executive Protection or similar training with a reputable company. I recommend ITG personally. If you have some money to burn, also get some solid shooting training, because you will have to shoot for your job on many contracts. I recommend CSAT. And as the contracts get more specialized, the more involved the shooting tests. Get good with the Glock. Also, driving is a big one. I recommend BSR. Finally, for medical training, Deployment Medicine Int. is probably one of the best out there to get you squared away.
Which is another angle. If you can get EMT I or a Paramedic certification, then you can expand your job potential in this industry. Dog handler, ammo technician with UXO stuff, or amorer are some other specialties to get.
Get organized, get relevant, put together a sound job finding strategy, and have persistence, and you will get a job in this industry. Persistence is power.
Comment by headjundi — Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 5:25 PM
Capt Perdue was an issue and probably did lie about military experience but he was gone by 2005, he left in 2004 to work police canine in Louisiana I think?
I was a shift Sgt during my time at camp Doha and arifjan I do understand your frustration because i heard it often. All in all the pay wasn’t as great as it originally sounded and the hours were long and working outside sucked while wearing Kevlar. So regarding your comment that the work was easy I disagree based solely on weather and gear plus 13 hour shifts.
I always felt that we made jack shit compared to what management made and they seemed to do very little. We were never asked for input on making the job better or working conditions.
Comment by Sgt Bruen — Monday, November 11, 2013 @ 10:44 AM
i am leaving in a few weeks to kuwait for csa… as an electrician…can any body give me a heads up
Comment by matt bouton — Monday, February 22, 2010 @ 10:54 PM
Matt,
Good luck over there, and let us know how it goes. By the way, this blog mostly focuses on the shooter related work that CSA does, so I am not sure if you will get any electrician specific information. Take care. -matt
Comment by headjundi — Tuesday, February 23, 2010 @ 6:12 AM
Listen, for all you guys who have been out of the game for a while, its probably about the only place we can start. do a year, network with some other companies and recruiters and use that experiance to your advantage with a higher paying company. I've been out for five years, and i think at this current time, its about the only way back in as far as I can tell. I'm going through phone confrence this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
Comment by Thomas — Wednesday, March 3, 2010 @ 2:23 PM
Thomas,
Good luck man. You are right about CSA being a start for work in the industry. I know many folks who got their start through companies like this. -Matt
Comment by headjundi — Wednesday, March 3, 2010 @ 3:19 PM
Hey guys I am about to send in my resume and application to CSA and I had a couple of questions. I have a friend that is currently an FPO for them and he says they might be losing their contract in Kuwait at the end of this month but he does not know. Anyone have any info on this? My second question is should I email a copy of the application in, in PDF form because of the required signatures or should I just go ahead and Fax all my documents with a cover letter? Thanks for the help guys.
Comment by John — Thursday, March 25, 2010 @ 7:38 AM
the contract does end, but they are up for rebid and will probably get it. also, they have said if they did lose the contract the majority of FPO's will be retained in the new contract. and you should fax everything. thats what i did. they don't want their email accounts flooded with application forms.
hope tjhis helpe some.
Comment by Thomas — Tuesday, March 30, 2010 @ 10:47 PM
Thanks for the info Thomas. I figured that would be the best course of action. Im faxing it all in today.
Comment by John — Wednesday, March 31, 2010 @ 12:21 AM
anyone know how long after the physical before you heard anything back? I.E. medical clearence accepted/ deployment information?
Comment by Thomas — Monday, April 5, 2010 @ 11:43 AM
alright… leaving may 11 now. anyone else leaving aorund this date?
Comment by Thomas — Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 9:10 PM
Applied and now waiting on medical clearence. Just wanting to try something new hope its a good choice. Never been in the military but been doin Corrections for 3 years. only 23 so think i got a little time to make a decision about what i want to do. I'm from Mississippi Thomas where u from? if i pass everything i guess i'll be leaving after a while. let me know how the living arrangements are when u arrive. dont really think i want to go to iraq or afghan but u never know.
Comment by Roosevelt — Sunday, May 9, 2010 @ 2:15 PM
leaving jun 8 see u guys there
Comment by Roosevelt — Monday, May 24, 2010 @ 9:12 AM
How much does CSA pay. I applied for a position with them and I want to know what the pay is like.
Comment by Catlyn morse — Sunday, August 1, 2010 @ 2:42 AM
CSA pays roughly 14 per hour with a $31 dollar a day living allowance.
Based on overtime they expect you to make around $60k a year
Comment by Q — Thursday, August 12, 2010 @ 8:52 AM
I had my conference call around July 23 & completed all the necessary requirements. Now I’m supposedly waiting on a work permit from the Embassy. It’s been approx. 3 months now since I applied. Are there any more steps I need to do & does it usually take this long? Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
Comment by Mike — Friday, October 15, 2010 @ 5:36 PM
we were told there was a hiring freeze until the contract was awarded and we were told that they have 500 people on hold. As of today we have an extension till the 14 Feb. 2011 so they are hanging on for a few more months. ITT has the contract and Triple Canopy has the sub contract for the security portion. This company is not the greatest but it is all right you just have to pick your battles like any other job. I have been here for over a year and im content. You have to remember that most of the complainers arethe problem childs. I would come over and see for yourself and if you dont like it then go home what is it hurting you dont have a job anyway.
Comment by James — Thursday, November 11, 2010 @ 9:05 PM