Why is it that the security contracting community is always treated like the elephant in the room that no one wants to acknowledge? We are the second largest force in Iraq, yet we are treated as insignificant or irrelevant when it comes to any conversation about our service there.
So with that said, this show was a little hard to listen too. There is absolutely no voice representing the security contracting community in this forum. I am actually kind of disappointed in PBS NewsHour for putting together such a one sided deal.
I think the biggest thing that kind of ticked me off, was that all of the contributors in this conversation, completely ignored the realities of the war in Iraq, during the times that they were referring to. I really don’t know how else to convey how dangerous and tenuous these kinds of operations were then and now, and there was a total disregard for this fact during the show. How else do you go down the road as a security specialist, guarding a convoy that every insurgent in Iraq would love to destroy? Or worse yet, to be dealing with an environment where all vehicle are potential bomb laden threats. The roads are dangerous, and keeping alive the client in a war zone is not easy or pretty.
Or that the reason why we were called upon in the first place to do our thing in Iraq, was because the DOD and DOS did not have the man power to get these jobs done. We are and were very important to the war effort, and this guys did not cover that aspect very well at all. Did PBS think to post how many men Blackwater lost in Iraq? Like I said, the conversation was a little one sided.
Also, security contractors are a service provider. If the client (DOD and DOS) wants to use us, then it is on them to determine the rules and what we can or can’t do. With that said, I have had to sign numerous legal documents to operate in Iraq. I have always understood that I was accountable for my actions and that I was covered by UCMJ, which really is the only legal system we should fall under while over there.(in my opinion) Likewise, if UCMJ was properly applied to contractors, then maybe Iraq would have seen more justice served. But yet again, politics and the desires of the Iraqi people are what dictate the conditions of the SOFA, and not what is practical or fair.
The other thing that bothers me, is this mention of a fully operational and legitimate Iraqi legal system. Maybe the courts are set up all nice, complete with well briefed judges, but the law enforcement side of the issue is in severe question. How do you collect evidence, secure a scene, and question witnesses, in the middle of a war zone? During the Blackwater incident, that is exactly what they came up against. That evidence and witness questioning, was tainted by a war environment. That the enemy could very well set up a situation to frame companies, as a tactic of war, and take advantage of this kind of chaotic environment.
Now don’t get me wrong, I want Iraq to succeed and gain total independence from the US and Coalition. I want it to be a success story, just like everyone that has been a part of that war. But it is my opinion that we need to slowly transition toward Iraqi independence, and do it very carefully and base all of our moves on results, and not politics. What I am afraid of, is that politics will force these issues, and guys could get hurt during this transition period. And when the war is finally finished, then maybe we can trust that justice and the law can be fairly administered.
I think we can fall under Iraqi law legitimately one day, and I think we should.(that’s if we are all still in their country when the war is over) But do I think Iraq is at the level where justice will be fully served, and especially in the middle of a war? I have my doubts, and I would like to hear some more experts out there weigh in on the issue to alleviate some of these doubts.
As for the DOS not falling under the SOFA, that is an interesting angle. It could be that the guards of DOS are privy to more sensitive information, and that if they are brought up before an Iraqi court of law, that this could cause OPSEC/PERSEC problems. But the DOD has the same situation as well. Or the State is just trying to protect Blackwater right now, because they know that Iraq is out for blood. The current agreement got this far like that, so there must be intent for that part to be in there.
I don’t know, and I am just speculating right now. But this is the kind of thing I am talking about. Who is going to explain this stuff to the guy on the ground? That’s why I recommend to all employees of companies working in Iraq, to demand that the company explain the details of the SOFA to them as soon as an agreement is passed. –Head Jundi
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Security Contractors Left Out of Iraq Status of Forces Pact
Blackwater security contractors in IraqA draft Status of Forces Agreement negotiated between the U.S. and Iraqi governments gives Iraq “primary legal jurisdiction over contractors with the U.S. and their employees.” But disagreement has arisen over whether the provision applies to State Department contractors, such as Blackwater USA, or just Defense Department contractors. The NewsHour’s Dan Sagalyn prepared this report.
DAN SAGALYN, NewsHour with Jim Lehrer: Iraqis may have mixed feelings about
U.S. troops patrolling their streets and countryside.
But from the highest official to the lowliest citizen, Iraqis agree that one
group of Americans needs to come under a tighter Iraqi thumb: and that’s the
hundreds of private contractors paid by the U.S. government for a variety of
security missions.
And by most accounts, the new Status of Forces Agreement negotiated between
the U.S. and Iraqi governments was supposed to put contractors under Iraqi
law.
But it appears the fine print may tell a different story than has appeared
in many U.S. news accounts.
For the past four years the U.S. government has maintained that American
contractors were immune from the Iraqi legal system, by virtue of Coalition
Provisional Authority order No. 17 signed by U.S. Administer Paul Bremer in
June 2004.
This legal immunity has been a sore spot for the Iraqi government. Since the
U.S. invasion of Iraq there have been numerous reports of instances of
American security contractors firing on and killing Iraqis.
A congressional committee investigation that reviewed internal incident
reports by Blackwater — the security contractor with the largest presence
in Iraq — revealed that between 2005 and Sept. 12, 2007, 16 Iraqis were
killed, and there were 162 incidents of property damage.
The U.S. government has said it would investigate, and if need be prosecute
any wrongdoing. However, so far there have been no prosecutions of American
contractors involving Iraqi deaths.
David Tafuri recently returned from 15 months in Iraq. He traveled all over
the country as the State Department’s rule of law coordinator. He says
security contractors are well trained and are crucial for American success.
DAVID TAFURI, former rule of law coordinator: They provide the protection
when you travel outside of the Green Zone, they often provide the protection
when you travel in cities outside of Baghdad. They provide armored vehicles,
and security professionals who are trained to protect diplomats. It’s
necessary for diplomats and reconstruction advisors to get out and to meet
with Iraqis. Were contractors, security contractors not to be there, the
U.S. military would have to take over those responsibilities, which would
require even more U.S. soldiers to be in country.
But Feisal Istrabadi sees it differently.
FEISAL ISTRABADI, law professor: They do play an important role, they do
provide security. That’s why were generally have held our noses and accepted
their rather obnoxious presence in the country.
DAN SAGALYN: Istrabadi was Iraq’s deputy representative to the United
Nations from 2004 to 2007. He’s now a professor of law at Indiana
University-Bloomington.
FEISAL ISTRABADI: They drive through cities with arms, with machine guns
literally sticking out of windows of the vehicles they’re in. They shoot at
random. They don’t have the kind of discipline and control and training that
U.S. regular armed forces do. They’re not under any kind of military code,
whereas U.S. forces, of course, come under the Uniform Code of Military
Justice. These people are simply a law unto themselves, and they behave that
way. They’re detested by the Iraqis.
DAN SAGALYN: The most notorious incident involving American security
contractors took place on Sept. 16, 2007 at a busy intersection in Baghdad.
Guardsmen from Blackwater USA were escorting American diplomats and thought
they were being fired upon. They shot at what they thought were hostile
Iraqis. When the dust settled 17 Iraqis were killed.
According to Laith Kubba, a former spokesman for the Iraqi prime minister in
2005 and 2006, that particular incident had a powerful effect. It stiffened
the Iraqi government’s resolve to demand that contractors fall under Iraqi
law.
LAITH KUBBA, former Iraqi government spokesman: That, of course, was not the
only incident, but that was the incident that galvanized public opinion
against the presence of these security firms. When I was in Iraq, I saw how
they conduct themselves. They are above the law and absolutely no
self-respecting nation would accept the presence of these troops loose out
there with guns. Irrespective of whatever guidance they’re given, at the end
of the day, they’re above the law. So yes, that incident galvanized public
opinion and I think there is a strong sentiment against them.
DAN SAGALYN: For months the press has reported that the U.S. agreed to the
Iraqi demand that American contractors lose their immunity, and fall under
Iraqi law.
The latest draft of the agreement, which was leaked to the Iraqi media, says
that “Iraq has the primary legal jurisdiction over contractors with the U.S.
and their employees.”
However, it also defines U.S. contractors as “U.S. citizens who are in Iraq
to supply goods, services or security to the U.S. forces.” In other words
security contractors supporting the U.S. military would be covered, but not
those under contract to the State Department. A U.S. government official
e-mailed the NewsHour that “As it currently stands, the SOFA does not cover
non-DOD contractors.” And that “this is an aspect of the agreement that
remains under discussion.” Because the talks are in a sensitive stage, the
State Department refused to address this issue on the record.
There are currently around 640 American contractors providing security to
U.S. diplomats in Iraq and another 1,350 working for the Defense Department.
So only about one-third of American security contractors would be affected
by the Status of Forces Agreement as it now stands.
To Feisal Istrabadi this is a problem. He says, most if not all Iraqis
believe the agreement will cover all security contractors.
FEISAL ISTRABADI: It cannot appear after the fact that the U.S. was not
participating in these negotiations in good faith. And that is the way it
will appear in Baghdad. And if there is some sort of a technical flaw that
these contractors are actually contractors with the State Department and not
the Defense Department, that’s a kind of a technical over the legalistic
argument, and I doubt that members of Parliament believe that this agreement
allows Blackwater to have impunity for acts such as were committed in Iraq
in September of 2007.
DAN SAGALYN: But to David Tafuri, there is good reason to not have these
contractors subject to Iraqi law.
DAVID TAFURI: The Iraqi legal system is getting stronger and is maturing,
but there are still problems with the Iraqi legal system. And it would be
very costly and very difficult for a contractor company to defend one of its
employees if that employee ended up in an Iraqi detention center. The courts
have not operated at full capacity in many places, courts were not able to
operate at all for several years because of the security situation. So
there’s been enormous strain on the legal system.
DAN SAGALYN: But Feisal Istrabadi says it’s better to have security
contractors subject to the Iraqi legal system than to no system at all.
FEISAL ISTRABADI: The United States Department of Justice gave the Iraqi
judicial system its seal of good housekeeping, No. 1. In fact, it is a
modern, reasonably sophisticated judicial system. And if the choice is
between a legal system and absolutely no law whatsoever, in which these
private contractors behave in Iraq as though Iraq were the old West and they
are the law because they have guns. I’ll take an imperfect judicial system
over that lawless state of nature.
DAN SAGALYN: As the United States and Iraqis continue to negotiate the
Status of Forces Agreement, how the issue of immunity for the State
Department’s private security men will be resolved remains to be seen.
For the Online NewsHour, this is Dan Sagalyn.
As usual very little factual content when it comes to contractor behavior. Just allegations with only one concrete example. You're right, not one representative of the group they're chastising. Journalism 101. Pathetic.
It was interesting that the number of contractors seems a little more realistic than the 100,000 everyone said we had before. I always thought it was funny that I kept seeing the same guys everywhere if there were supposedly so many of us about.
Comment by Scott — Friday, October 31, 2008 @ 3:13 AM
Yeah, it is interesting. The other thing that kind gets me is this 'Strategic Communications' initiative that I keep hearing about. It is the latest thing, and yet no one is really talking about how to bring in the elephant (contractors) into that plan. And I say that, because not only are the 'gun' guys interacting with the local populations, but so are the guys that gun guys are protecting.
If private contractors are talking with a local sheik and making deals to secure workers for a local site, then that is an area where 'strategic communication' could be negatively tweaked. Because now that sheik thinks they are not only talking to a private contractor, but a representative of the US military. In the eyes of the local populations, if we are in their country, we are the foreigner occupiers no matter if we are civilian or military.
I hope to do a story about this Strategic Communications concept, of getting all the diplomats and leaders involved with interacting with the various countries that we have an interest in for the war effort. Th SC is supposed to lay down the foundation of how we are to talk with people, and what we should be talking about, so we don't shoot ourselves in the foot for our over all big picture. It is like the political and diplomatic side of COIN, that is necessary, and the private contracting industry needs to be included in that conversation.
Comment by headjundi — Friday, October 31, 2008 @ 4:04 AM