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Thursday, May 12, 2011

Weapons Stuff: A Look At The New M855A1 62 Grain EPR ‘Green’ Ammunition

Filed under: Weapons Stuff — Tags: , , , , , , — Matt @ 4:04 PM

Inevitably, contractors will be using this ammo at one point or another. So I figured I would just give a heads up in case you do see some of it floating around.  This ‘green ammo’ sounds interesting, but I would really like to hear some more input before making any judgments on the stuff.

On the positive side, the article below says that it is a more accurate and consistent round. I like that, and I wonder how it compares to the Mk 262 or the Mk 318 ? If anyone has experience with this ammo, or if your company is able to obtain this stuff out there, I would like to hear your feedback. I also wonder what ammo the SEALs were using in their HK 416’s when they killed Bin Laden, because I am sure that will get a ton of attention as well. –Matt


Green Bullet’ as Effective as M855 Round – Consistently
May 9, 2011
Aberdeen, Md. – Since June, the Army has fielded about 30 million of its new 5.56 M855A1 “Enhanced Performance Round” in Afghanistan.
The cartridge, sometimes called the “green bullet” because it has an environmentally-friendly copper core instead of the traditional lead, has been getting mostly good reviews in the 11 months since it first deployed to Operation Enduring Freedom.
“The vast majority of everything we’ve got back from the field is positive,” said Lt. Col. Jeffrey K. Woods, product manager, small caliber ammunition, during a “media day” at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Md.
During the day-long event, reporters learned the benefits of the new cartridge, witnessed a demonstration of the round, compared to the round it is designed to replace, and had the opportunity to fire the round from both an M16 and M4 rifle.
Perhaps the biggest plus of the M855A1 “enhanced performance round” is the consistency it brings to the fight — more so than the 5.56 M822 round it is designed to replace.
Woods and other officials were reticent to talk specifically about the effects of the new bullet, or any bullet, on a “soft target” — a euphemism for enemy personnel. But what they made clear was the M855A1 is at least equal to the M855 on a soft target — but that it did damage with more consistency. (more…)

Tuesday, February 23, 2010

Weapons Stuff: The Marines To Use MK 318 MOD 0 Ammo In Afghanistan

   Cool beans.  It’s always interesting to see what new ammo the guys are using out there.  It sounds like this MK 318 round is just a military version of a similar hunting round called the Federal Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, which is great.  I have never shot this round, so I really can’t comment on the thing. I like the 77 gr. Sierra Matchking MK 262 round, just because it is a little heavier for the long distance stuff.  But there is some question as to it’s barrier penetration I guess, and barrier penetration is what the Marines are wanting. What all of these ammunitions have in common is that they all have a hole in the bullet tip as well.

   That little open tip on the bullet continues to cause controversy when it comes to the legality of the ammunition. It was intended to make the bullet more accurate.  The confusion is wether or not this little hole constitutes a ‘hollow point’ or dum dum bullets, which is illegal according to the ‘law of land warfare’. (eyes rolling)  My personal thoughts are that ammunition will cause pain and death, regardless, and this idea of somehow making warfare less horrible or painful is just dumb. I wonder what the Hague has to say about drone strikes? Oh wait, they didn’t have UAV’s a hundred years ago. lol

    Either way, the round ‘has been approved’ for today’s war fighting, and I hope to high hell that it actually translates into more Taliban and Al Qaeda deaths. I still think we should just go to a bigger round for today’s battle rifles, or utilize the 7.62 in Afghanistan. That would make more sense, as opposed to trying to squeeze out every last bit of magical lethality out of a round that is more suited towards varmint hunting. Also, check out this publication called ‘Increasing Small Arms Lethality in Afghanistan: Taking Back the Infantry Half-Kilometer’  here. Pretty interesting. –Matt

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Corps to use more lethal ammo in Afghanistan

By Dan Lamothe

Tuesday Feb 16, 2010

The Marine Corps is dropping its conventional 5.56mm ammunition in Afghanistan in favor of new deadlier, more accurate rifle rounds, and could field them at any time.

The open-tipped rounds until now have been available only to Special Operations Command troops. The first 200,000 5.56mm Special Operations Science and Technology rounds are already downrange with Marine Expeditionary Brigade-Afghanistan, said Brig. Gen. Michael Brogan, commander of Marine Corps Systems Command. Commonly known as “SOST” rounds, they were legally cleared for Marine use by the Pentagon in late January, according to Navy Department documents obtained by Marine Corps Times.

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