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Wednesday, November 23, 2011

Industry Talk: Up To 763 Contractors And 157 US Military Trainers To Train Iraqi Forces Post-2011

Filed under: Industry Talk,Iraq — Tags: , , , , — Matt @ 2:15 PM

Well I guess there goes that whole idea that ‘all troops will be out of Iraq’? lol Sure, they will be out by Christmas, but according to this article, military trainers will be in Iraq ‘post-2011’. So how is that a departure of the troops?

The big one here is that we have some solid numbers on how many contractors will be involved with training.  Iraq has made some weapons purchases that require lots of training, and contractors/military advisers are a necessity for training the Iraqis on how to use that stuff.

Also, with the economy as it is, weapons sales to other countries is a matter of importance to the US and our defense companies. Nothing new going on there, and we have quite the history of selling military hardware to allies throughout the region. The Vinnell Arabia contract in Saudi Arabia is a prime example, and those guys have been training Saudis to use American gear for a long time. Iraq will be no different and I have written about this in the past. Although with these contracts, Iraq will still be a dangerous place to operate in. –Matt

 

Up to 763 contractors to train Iraqi forces: US
By W.G. Dunlop
November 23, 2011
A maximum of 763 civilian contractors and 157 US military personnel will train Iraqi security forces post-2011, if the Iraqi government gives its approval, a US officer said on Wednesday.
US President Barack Obama announced on October 21 that US troops would depart Iraq by year’s end, after negotiations with Baghdad on a larger-scale post-2011 US military training mission broke down.
The military personnel and contractors are part of the Office of Security Cooperation – Iraq (OSC-I), which falls under US embassy authority, Lieutenant Colonel Tom Hanson, director of strategic communications for OSC-I, told AFP.
“The 157 (military personnel) are here, and the up to 763 number is based on the number of active foreign military sales cases at any given time,” he said.
As not all are active at once, the 763 contractors will probably not be in Iraq at the same time, he added.
The contractors are “involved in some aspect of bringing the equipment to the Iraqis and helping them learn how to operate it, and bringing (them) to a minimum level of proficiency on it, whether it’s a tank or an airplane or an air traffic control system or a radar,” Hanson said.


Meanwhile, “most of the uniformed personnel are programme managers, so they’re supervising contractors.”
The aim “is to help the Iraqi security forces build their capability, build the proficiency, and modernise their equipment,” he said.
The contractors are not required to be American citizens, Hanson said, adding that there are OSC-I contractors of various nationalities, including some Iraqis.
OSC-I military personnel have immunity from Iraqi prosecution, but the contractors do not.
“The uniformed military personnel are protected the same way that the diplomats in the embassy are. The contractors do not have any immunity, any legal protections right now,” Hanson said.
The issue of immunity scuppered the talks on a post-2011 US military training mission. Washington insisted that the trainers must have immunity, while Baghdad said that was not necessary.
Both Iraq and the US have consistently said that Iraqi forces still require significant improvement.
Iraqi military chief of staff, Lieutenant General Babaker Zebari, was quoted in an October report from a US watchdog as saying Iraq “will be unable to execute the full spectrum of external defence missions until sometime between 2020 and 2024.”
General Lloyd Austin, the top US commander in Iraq said earlier this week that Iraqi forces were near “having the ability to control the internal security environment”.
But “I don’t think they have very much of a capability at all to address an external threat,” Austin said.
Story here.

1 Comment

  1. I know this sounds weird but I'm curious how many government employees will be there, and if it's counted in the numbers given here?

    When I worked for a military base as a federal employee, we were not counted in the number of "enlisted" or "contracted" positions in the base and it was purposefully not disclosed. There were only a dozen enlisted employees, and a couple thousand contractors but there were about five hundred federal employees for logistical support.

    I love this because it goes to show my prediction would pan out in Iraq – simply replace operations with contractors and military trainers then declare it a "Military Success."

    Comment by Samuel — Wednesday, November 30, 2011 @ 8:52 AM

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